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My Favorite Song

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/jdc

Hey Pastor John,

I just wanted to tell you my favorite song.

It is The Way of Grace, I don’t know what it is

about it, but it is so nice to listen to. Thanks for

writing it.

Love,
Jonathan
P.S. I also love the way it sounds with the guitar
and all the vocals. Thanks.

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Speaking in tongues

http://www.goingtojesus.com/tongues-at-spirit-baptism.html

Pastor John,

I have experienced in several Pentecostal churches where members were speaking “tongues” another language to me, but there was no interpreter as Paul tells us must happen.  Just trying to get your advice and counsel and mean no harm.  God Bless you for serving Our LORD.

May God Bless you with his grace

Evangelist Stephen

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Hi Stephen,

I believe you have misunderstood Paul’s instruction, which is not unusual.  If you will, check out the following.  It may help clear things up.

May God bless you and those with you.

Pastor John

www.PastorJohnsHouse.com

http://www.goingtojesus.com/tongues-at-spirit-baptism.html

http://www.goingtojesus.com/site/php/speaking-in-tongues.html

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Thank you for your quick reply. But my confusion is still why people in great numbers just stand up during the sermon and speak in tongue. What was it they were saying I have to ask myself. Now I am guilty of speaking during a sermon by an occasional amen. At least everyone knows what was said. I understand the gift of tongues and having that great one on one with God. What about new visitors to the Church? Will they run out the door in fear that evil dwells there?

Thank you again for kindly having this in Christ discussion. In my 60’s I have turned into a human sponge for God’s word.

May God Bless you with his grace
God’s Preservation Ministry

Evangelist Stephen

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Hi Stephen,

The portion of scripture you are thinking of is from

1Corinthians 14:26-31:

 [26] How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, everyone of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.[27] If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.[28] But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God. 

Because Christian translators mistranslate the Greek word, ekklesia, as “church”, most people have the same misunderstanding as you do concerning what Paul was saying.  The phrase, “in the church” should be “in the assembly”.  In other words, Paul is referring to someone standing up and addressing the assembly of saints; he is not forbidding people to speak in tongues in the building where the saints are meeting unless there is an interpreter.  Here is what Paul actually wrote:

 26. What is it then, brothers?  When you come together, each of you has a song of praise, has a teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation.  Let everything be done for edification.

27. If anyone in an assembly speaks in an unknown tongue, it should be by two, or at the most, three, each in turn, and let one interpret,

28. but if there be no interpreter, let him be silent in an assembly, but, let him speak to himself and to God.

In verse 34, it becomes even clearer that Paul is referring to someone addressing the assembly when he says that women are to be silent “in the assembly” (that is, “to the assembly”).  He made this point even clearer when he wrote to Timothy that women are not to “usurp authority over a man” to teach in an assembly of saints (1Tim. 2:12).  We know that here in 1Corinthians, Paul was not issuing a blanket commandment forbidding women ever to speak when an assembly of saints met because he commended both Aquila and his wife Priscilla for the work they both did for the assembly of God, including the assembly that met in their home in Corinth (1Cor. 16:19), and even into his old age (2Tim. 4:19).  Paul also called both Aquila and Priscilla “my fellow helpers in Christ Jesus” (Rom. 16:3), and they both helped Apollos understand the truth of the gospel more perfectly” (Acts 18:26).  We also know that the apostle Philip had four daughters who prophesied (Acts 21:8-9), and it is impossible to think that those daughters prophesied without speaking “in an assembly” when the Spirit moved upon them.

So, we have to take all the scriptures together in order to get the whole picture.  When Paul forbids anyone, male or female, to speak “in the assembly”, he is forbidding any person to speak to the assembly as one who is addressing and teaching the assembly.  He never forbids anyone to speak in tongues while an assembly is together.  And as to whether or not some visitors will think God’s people are crazy for doing so, the answer is, yes; they will.  And some will run out, thinking something evil is taking place there.  John Sherrill did, for example (but he later received the Spirit, and wrote a famous book about the experience).  But so what?  Paul himself never says God’s people are crazy for speaking in tongues during a meeting.  In fact, he forbids anyone to tell God’s people not speak in tongues and says in 1Corinthians 14 that he speaks in tongues more than anyone in Corinth does.  But his point is that when addressing the assembly, he speaks in a language the people can understand:

 18. I thank my God, I speak in tongues more than all of you;

19. however, in an assembly, I prefer to speak five words with my understanding so that I may benefit others also than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.

Finally, let me point out that there is no such thing as “the gift of speaking in tongues”.  All of God’s people speak in tongues because the evidence of receiving the Spirit is “stammering lips and another tongue” (Isa. 28:11 and 1Cor. 14:21), but only a few have the gift of “diverse kinds of tongues” (1Cor. 12:10); that is, the gift of ministering to an assembly (“in an assembly”) in a language other than their own.

I have seen people be out of order by speaking in tongues when the preacher was preaching, but it was not the speaking in tongues that was out of order; it was the people themselves, and their speaking in tongues at that time was only the evidence of it.  As a rule, there is nothing wrong with it, and you will damage a congregation by commanding them never to do so.  You will quench the Spirit, which Paul absolutely forbid us to do.

I suspect that the basic reason you are confused about this issue is that you believe that all speaking in tongues is the gift of “diverse kinds of tongues” and that you do not understand what the new birth really is.  Please read my gospel tract, “The New Birth” at:

http://www.goingtojesus.com/site/php/the-new-birth.html.

Pastor John

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Billy M – Last night

Hi Pastor John:

Last week, I had been in meetings in WV all week. The things you hear and see can be very vexing. It was so refreshing to see everyone on livestream Saturday and last night. Even though it was livestream, the feelings of seeing my family were wonderful.

I sat in my chair with tears running down my face last night, so thankful for everyone. I felt peace and the power of God from the testimonies. The songs were not from this world and the reading of chapter 9 of your book, God Had a Son came from the same place.

When you stretched forth your hand and prayed for us on JustinTV, I felt a surge of the Spirit that was so peaceful covering my body; it felt like I was wrapped in a security blanket of peace. We know you love us all, and we know that especially Jesus loves us all and that love came from his Father. What else could it be to hear the words, testimonies, and songs that were are blessed with?

Thank you, Jesus

billy m

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Tonight

Pastor John,

I have been watching YouTube videos of Oral Roberts since Saturday night when you were talking about him. I love watching him obey the Spirit and heal all those people. There’s something about him that I just love! I know he’s gone now, but I feel like he belongs with us. Since he’s been on my mind, I’ve been praying this week to feel His power more. When I went up for prayer tonight, I could feel my flesh resisting for just a split second, but when I gave in, I just felt like I was floating down to a heap on the ground. I love, love, love the feelings that Jesus brings.

As you mentioned in tonight’s reading, there’s no “maybe” with the truth; there’s no compromise, no mix. I’m happy with exactly the way the truth is- nothing added.

Thank you for everything.

Anna

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Jesus touched my hand!

Hey Uncle John,

I just wanted to thank you for praying for us who were online. A couple hours before the meeting I had cut my hand badly. I got a new dissection kit for one of my science labs and I was taking the cap off of my exacto knife and my hands slipped. It put about a centimeter deep cut into the palm of my hand. I don’t think my hand has ever hurt that bad. It was still hurting during the meeting, but when you prayed for us I felt all the pain go away instantly and I could move my hand again. I’m gonna need it for taking notes in classes. But I know Jesus did that for me. It makes me cry writing this. I was scared about it and considered going to the infirmary tomorrow morning, but not anymore! 🙂 Thank you Jesus! And thank you for praying for us. I sure did feel it.

~Abby

Ps: I miss you all a lot. 😦 Its a different world up here. Classes are going well though. 🙂

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Hey there!

 
I dreamed about the Father and Son book last night.  In the dream, I was looking at the file and the first line of the paragraph I was reading said in bold:  
 
Nobody can have communion with God alone.
 
🙂  That just goes along with everything we have learned about the Father and the Son.  It’s about relationships: The Father and the Son, them with us, us with them, and us with others here on earth in the family of God – no one is left out.  As you have said, there are no loners in the kingdom of God, and nobody can just have a relationship “with God” alone.  You can’t just work it out between you and God.  It’s all in the family. 🙂  And, anyway, that kind of thinking leaves the Son out, and that will not go over very well with his Father!  I love the love of the Father and the Son and the relationship they share with us, no one is “left out”, not his Son and not his family.
 
I am very thankful the thoughts of the Father and the Son are my life!

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2 Samuel 24

I just finished reading 2 Samuel 24 with Naomi and it was about when David sinned by numbering the people and God had him chose a punishment and he chose sickness for 3 days. Gad tells David to build an offering on the threshing floor of Araunah and the plague will be stopped. When David goes to Araunah’s to make the sacrifice, he offers him the floor, all his equipment for wood and his 2 oxen for free. But David told him that he could not offer it to God unless he paid for it.

It was so good, after learning about this recently in the Father and Son, to understand that David could not take all of that for free or the offering would not have been his offering. I was able to explain that and then add that is why God had to have a son. He could not take another man’s son and make an offering for sin. He had to have His own son.
Thank you!

te.
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“I am understanding; I have strength”
That is what the Son of God said through David. When we understand what was really happening, it not only brings peace and joy, but it also gives us strength to overcome the spirits of this age that would have us doubt that God is good, as the serpent made Eve doubt it in the garden of Eden.

It also makes telling those wonderful stories to our children much easier because they will certainly ask the questions when something is not clear!

jdc

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Social Fellowship

What in the world does THIS mean? Yikes.

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Brad
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That statement from my father’s sermon long ago means what James said:
“Friendship with the world is enmity against God.”
Don’t get caught up in the things of this world, Brad. There are many of God’s people who have been “destroyed with peace”.

Pastor John
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Ha, I love this one.

Any “fellowship” which didn’t take Jesus to come and die for, and rise again for, and which one can have without the holy Ghost sent from heaven, amounts to “friendship”.

It’s not “real” fellowship, and when we do have it, we’ve lost something from God.

Thank God for the wisdom your father had…. you read it and say, “AMEN!” and it does something to lift you up.

Gary

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Hey John,

Here lately I have been reading the story of David in both 2 Samuel & 1 Chronicles together, and in 2 Samuel this morning I came across something while reading.  The last word “them” in the following verse, is that referring to the Father and Son?   In my Bible it has it italicized, so not sure what that means.  Tried looking in my Bible to see if it explains why certain words are italicized, but unable to find anything. 

21 For thy word’s sake, and according to thine own heart, hast thou done all these great things, to make thy servant know them.

When you read the 22nd verse it looks like through David God throws the reader off by saying “neither is there any God beside thee” making the reader feel no one is with him (hiding Jesus).  That is why I got the feeling “them” in the previous verse is referring to the Father and Son.

22 Wherefore thou art great, O Lord God: for there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.

It is amazing how much we are seeing now when we read the Bible learning about the Father and Son.  Rather I am right or wrong about the above verses, it still reminds me of my testimony when I asked God why he lets us learn and see things like no one else and his response was, “Because you believe the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth!” 

Thanks!

Cathy B 

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Hey John,

Sorry I bothered you with last email.  I guess I got excited and didn’t think to read in Chronicles first.  Anyway, it looks like the “them” in David’s prayer in 2 Samuel was speaking of God’s miraculous works on earth not about the Father and Son.

Cathy B.

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You didn’t bother me at all!  It was very good to hear from you.
 
Yes, you figured it out, but at the same time, it is a blessing to see you thinking – really thinking – about what you are reading.  And if you do that, you are sure to come across some Old Testament verses that DO refer to the Father and the Son, verses that you have read at other times and not seen it.  So, keep it up!  And let me know about it!
 
jdc

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Lying to the Spirit

 

http://www.goingtojesus.com/site/php/the-seven-pillars.html.

Pastor John,

Anna and I were reading the tract Seven Pillars this morning. Firstly I’m thankful John that you uphold your work like you do with fear and reverence for the truth.  When Paul said, “I have laid the foundation, but another builds on it. But let each one take care as to how he builds on it”, it feels that the work you are doing is holy work that builds on top of that of Paul’s with the care he said one should. 

What struck Anna and I as interesting in that tract was when it referenced where Ananias and his wife lied to the holy Ghost.  We read the part of Acts where it tells the story.  How does one lie to the eternal life of God?  Moreover, what was Satan’s desired outcome when he led him to lie?  Is lying to the Spirit choosing to do wrong when the Spirit is leading you to do another, thus you’re a living lie to others who believe you, having been baptized with the Holy Ghost, are being led by the Spirit? 

I found it very interesting that Peter sensed he was lying and more important that Satan was behind it. How aware were the Apostles of Satan’s doings and influence on believers?  

Michael and Anna

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Hi Michael.
Here is the story from Acts 5

 

[1] But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
[2] And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles’ feet.
[3] But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
[4] Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
[5] And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.
[6] And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.
[7] And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in.
[8] And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.
[9] Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.
[10] Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.
 
By lying to the man of God who was filled with God’s life, Ananias and Sapphira were lying to God’s life, which is just another way of lying to God.
 
As for Satan leading Ananias and Sapphira to lie, it would not have been the case that Satan was standing behind Ananias whispering in his ear, “Lie to the holy ghost!  Lie to the holy ghost!”  Peter’s question should be understood as being something like this: “How is it that you have become so much like Satan that you would come here before me and act like him?”  Until the Son was revealed, Satan stood before God in heaven many thousands of years with lies in his heart, and God never exposed him, but in this New Covenant, Peter was free to call a spade a spade, and to condemn evil whenever it came close to him, even if it presented itself as something good, as in this case with Ananias.  The apostles, filled with the Spirit of Christ, would have been as aware of evil as Christ was, for he was in them, revealing truth and giving them power to enforce truth in their area of control.
 
When I was a teenager, I heard my father preach about this event in Acts 5 to a congregation in Louisville, KY.  When he read the scripture that described the liar falling down dead before the holy man of God, my father made a comment that I have never been able to forget.  he said, “It’s a good thing for some of us that the rest of us are not any closer to God than we are.”  Whew.  Think about that one.
 
Pastor John

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