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Thanksgiving Meetings


It’s late Saturday night and I find myself reflecting over the events of the weekend.  I felt like Jesus had a great desire to touch as many as would be touched, and I’m so glad that many were.  How sad I felt for anyone not there, especially for those who could have been there but  chose to be elsewhere.  That made me hurt, thinking of how it must have made Jesus feel.  It was like he was offering a very personal gift of himself and that it was discounted by some as less important than other things.

Saturday night’ s meeting was wonderful to me because so many were receiving his love and being touched, especially the younger ones.  How that must have made Jesus feel!

I want Jesus to know that I appreciate the mercy, patience, and love he has shown me more than ever.  I am so thankful for the wonderful people Jesus has put in my life and who love him.  Can I ever appreciate enough the countless things Jesus has done for me and the rest of us wherein I find myself rejoicing in what he did in the meeting here tonight?
Robert A. Payne


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Satan and Hell

Hi pastor John,

Last night I was pondering on what you said on skype about how that Christianity portrays Satan as being in charge of hell, like he is the one who is over it.  I thought, “That is the last place he wanted to be in charge of.”  He would have desired more to be over Paradise and all the people that were there because he desired to be like the most high (Isa. 14). Satan likes order and being right, as you said.  He is the accuser of the brothers, and, as we are learning, his accusations were right, according to the law and all appearances of what seemed right at the time. But envy was found in his heart, and that envy darkened his heart to think he was doing what was pleasing to God.  But God was just using him for his purpose to get done what he wanted done for his Son and all that would come after him.

I could imagine the anger satan felt when the son came back to heaven, and satan found out who the Son of god was.  My!

I have noticed in anyone who has envy, that they also have a time of great anger when they don’t get their way.  “Woe to inhabitants of the earth of the earth and of the sea!  for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has but a short time.”

John, I love what we have been learning about the father and the Son and the knowledge that God is sending down to us to help us to know him as he is.  I love God’s life.


Amen, Stuart!  What a fool Satan turned out to be, and how wise God proved to be!  Our God is great!

Pastor John

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the devil and Satan



I had some thoughts on the devil sinning from the beginning (1Jn. 3:8) and Satan being perfect from the day he was created until iniquity was found in him (Ezek. 28).   Looks like two different beings.   When I was looking up some Scriptures, I did notice that the devil isn’t mentioned until the New Testament like you said.   Just wonder when his beginning was.   And he was never perfect in his ways if he sinned from the beginning.


ps.   one thought sure does lead to another..

Yes, it surely does.  But this thought is not where the gold is.
I have met people who teach that the devil is a separate being from Satan, but that is not the case.  John tells us plainly that the devil is Satan in Revelation 12:9.

But keep thinking on these things!  Every gold prospector in history has dug where the gold was not before he discovered where it was.


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The Son of God

How about this?  😎  I was looking up scriptures on “The Son of God” and found this one.

1John 3:8
“He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.”

So, Token and I did some research and looked up the word “manifested” in the Oxford English Dictionary and it said – to reveal itself as existing or operative . . . . Token says “in service”  😎

How many things are we going to find now that the Lord has opened our eyes to the truth about the Father and the Son, as we go through the Bible, that have been there the whole time and we didn’t know what they meant or at least the extent of it?  It’s exciting to think about them…reminds me of this scripture, which is my favorite:

“Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.” – Phillipians 4:8

These things are altogether lovely to me!  😎

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Tithes & Offerings CDs


In the tract room last night I was given a copy of the Tithes & Offerings teaching CDs. Boy is it good! Listening to the CD put a feeling of a deeper trust in me toward you. At one point it brought tears to my eyes and does now as I think about it. By you accepting my tithes, it means you have fellowship with me–with me! I just wanted to say thank you for taking my tithes. I love being a part of this work and I am so glad Jesus loved me enough to surround me with people that love him (and me).

Amanda F. French, RNC-OB, MSN


Hi Amanda.

Tithes and Offerings are merely one expression of the fellowship and government that God creates among His people.  The doctrine concerning tithing is often used an a tool of oppression by ministers who are teaching people who may not have any fellowship with him at all in the Christ.  Without the love of God, every right things is abused.  Unless the feeling of God’s love was there from you to me, I would not accept your tithes, and without feeling God’s love from me to you, you should not render them.

Pastor John

PS  The Tithes and Offering CD is available now.  Hopefully, the book will be out soon.

Note: The Tithes and Offerings book is now available at:




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Buying Things


Hi John,

I have a question.  Are there ways to buy things in the spirit?



Yes, Caroline.  Even in the Old Testament, God invited His people to “Come buy, without money, and without price.”

Everything God offers us is free, after we pay for it.


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This sounds like a conversation that was worth having!

Pastor John


Talking with Amy tonight about sacrifices it was stirring up the thoughts and feelings from the other night when we went over the sacrifices paper.  My mind was going all over thinking about what our sacrifices are now and it made me think of the times that we are overwhelmed with joy, peace, thankfulness, love, etc.  We have those feelings most of the times, but there are times that you can be so full of them you can hardly move or do anything but cry.  What if that’s when we’re making those sacrifices and we get to eat of it with God, like they did in the old testament?  Give a thanksgiving offering and when you eat of it with the Father you are so full of thanksgiving that you do nothing but cry and lay out on the floor.  🙂  mmmmmmmmmm. 🙂  And then when Amy and I were reading the part about the fire being our salt!  And what the salt does between His people!  Good stuff 🙂


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Ashley and I started talking about the sacrifices and wondered what we could find in the Scriptures about sacrifices in the Spirit.  So, this is what we found.  There’s got to be some more…. 😎

Sacrifices of praise (Jer. 17); Sacrifices of joy (Ps. 27); Sacrifices of thanksgiving (Ps. 107); Sacrifices of righteousness and of a broken and contrite heart; (Ps. 51).

Then, in Hebrews 13:15 & 16, we saw that sacrifices please God:

“By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name. But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.”

And, then we found this about the salt for the sacrifice in the New Testament, which we learned in the Old Testament was offered with every sacrifice, even the drink offering:

Mark 9:49-50:
“For every one shall be salted with fire, and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt.  Salt is good: but if the salt have lost his saltness, wherewith will ye season it? Have salt in yourselves, and have peace one with another.”

So, we thought it was interesting that everyone should be salted with fire! 😎

Amy and Ashley

PS:  We did discover that when you mix salt and fire, they make beautiful colors! 😎

Ashley and Amy

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