Archive for January, 2002


Please don’t use “pastor” as you do a proper name, as in “hello, John” or “hello, Bill.” That’s how Xns use it, and it doesn’t sound right to me.


Can you please explain this further to me. I do not seem to grab what you are saying here perfectly. Will it be wrong to say “Hello Pastor John”?


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No, JOE, there is nothing wrong with saying that if that is what you prefer. Let me fill you in on some background for our use of the term “pastor” around here. We require children to respect their elders and, so, not to refer to their elders by their first names, as if they were their elders’ equals. As a group, we decided some years ago that the best way for the children to address me was by “pastor John”, to help the little ones better understand who I am. But never have I either wanted, expected, or demanded that adults call me “pastor John”. It is OK if adults do call me “pastor John”, if they choose to do that, especially if they are parents of very small children so that their children can get used to hearing me called that and learn it. To go the extra mile with it, however, and just call me “pastor” is very distasteful to me. I have seen Xn ministers glory in such titles, and I have also seen Xns glory in using those exalted terms, and it makes me feel sick inside when somebody refers to me that way. I like what Peter told Cornelius when that humble Gentile fell down at Peter’s feet. “Stand up. I myself also am a man [as you are].” And I also remember Elihu’s wisdom in Job 32:21-22: “Let me not, I pray you, accept any man’s person. Neither let me give flattering titles to any man. For I know not to give flattering titles; in so doing my Maker would soon take me away.”

Thanks for asking, JOE. I hope this answers your question.

Your servant for Jesus Christ the Lord,

alias, Pastor John


JOE wrote:

“To go the extra mile with it, however, and just call me “pastor” is very distasteful to me. I have seen Xn ministers glory in such titles, and I have also seen Xns glory in using those exalted terms, and it makes me feel sick inside when somebody refers to me that way.”

I have seen that too when I was of the Foursquare Gospel Church. My real names were forgotten. Everyone calls me “Deacon”. I tried stopping them as I do not like that at all. I explained to them that to be a deacon is not a position or title to be proud and get head blown but a responsibility. When I could not stop them, I lived with the sickness.

“I hope this answers your question.”

It more than answered my question. I will try and keep it in mind.

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My name is A. C. X, and I live in Yukon, Oklahoma. Is there anyone in Yukon, Oklahoma, or elsewhere in Oklahoma, with whom you are affiliated or acquainted and with whom you would recommend I visit? Thank you.



Hi AC:

Unfortunately, there is no one there that I know of, even though I feel sure that God has His “seven thousand that have not kneeled before Baal” somewhere. When I attended Oral Robert Grad School of Theology, I met some good folks north of Tulsa from the old pentecostal school who had love and faith, even though they did not understand much of the true doctrine, and those old folks are surely gone on to be with the Lord by now. That’s as close as I could possibly come to knowing who out that way has heard from Jesus concerning the things he has taught us here. Why do you ask, if you don’t mind telling me?

Pastor John


A.C.X wrote:

Hello again,

I don’t really know how to express it all in only a few words, but, the long and the short of it is, I want “the baptism of the holy Ghost.” The below expresses what I’m aiming for fairly concisely.

“The baptism of the holy Ghost is for you, and so are we. It is essential that you know that nothing but the baptism of the holy Ghost will cleanse your soul. It is the baptism of the holy Ghost that makes a man a member of the body of Christ (1Cor. 12:13), and it is the baptism of the holy Ghost that washes from our hearts the stain of sin (Acts 22:16), removing even the desire for sin from the heart of man. The baptism of the Spirit is the experience which makes a man a new creature in Christ Jesus, fit to live in eternity among the saints.” — excerpt from http://www.isaiah58.com/tracts/speakingintongues.html

Unfortunately, I do not know anyone here in Oklahoma who meets the “and so are we” criteria of the above quoted material. And given much of the content of your website, I thought, perhaps, you knew of someone here in Oklahoma with whom I could visit.

Thank you.



Pastor John wrote:


You don’t need to belong to a group anywhere in order to receive the holy Ghost. A number of godly people I know received the holy Ghost alone, in bed at night or praying in their homes.

In his first letter, John tells us three things that will always lead to receiving the Spirit. (1) Believe that Jesus is the Christ, (2) Do righteousness, and (3) love the brotherhood, or the family of God. In each case, John says that whoever does this is born of God. Do these things and then expect Jesus to fill you with his Spirit! And let me know when that happens!

Pastor John

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Brother Rob:

The fear of the Lord entered into my heart when I read that article on Islam and the public schools!

Brought this scripture to my mind:


[5] If thou hast run with the footmen, and they have wearied thee, then how canst thou contend with horses? and if in the land of peace, wherein thou trustedst, they wearied thee, then how wilt thou do in the swelling of Jordan?

Now is an easy time to serve the Lord, as Brother John has said. But the “swelling of Jordan” is coming and we are going to have to be mature in the Spirit and “the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth.” We are going to have to grow up in Christ, Brother Rob, so “that we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive. . . .” It is time to put away childish things!

I have never been so blessed by the above verses in Ephesians 4 as I have been this week. It is time to put behind us the little things that keep robbing us of the joy and peace of the Lord! Well, my, my, if we cannot even overcome the small, petty things of this flesh, how in the world are we going to endure the persecution that is surely to come? We are going to need every experience in Jesus, every feeling from the Spirit, and every bit of the Power of God to endure what is coming on this earth! And it is time for our children to know the importance of the Power of God.

There is a time when the joy of the Lord is our Strength, and there is a time when God said, “Their strength is to sit still.” Our strength and our trust can only be in the Lord. Listening to and following the Spirit is our only help, Brother Rob, and I am so thankful that we have that counsel and guidance to lead us every day. We have no problems if we have the Spirit. We just need to listen!

My prayer is that we all mature spiritually in the Body so that we can be “fitly joined together” in Love. I am thankful for every brother and sister that the Lord has given me, and for my part in the Body. To “keep on keeping on” as Preacher Clark told me many years ago seemed such a small thing. But, oh my, how much wisdom that man of God had! He had those “real” experiences with Jesus and knew the Power of God! Going forward in God as He draws us closer and closer to the Goal, to our Home, and to our Eternity with Him!! Now what of this earth is worth trading for that Reward!! Praise God, Brother Rob!

Sorry I got longwinded, but the Spirit in me today just feels like traveling on!!

Sure do love you,
See you tonight!

Sister Sandy 🙂


Rob’s response:

Amen on every word, Sister Sandy! I keep feeling such a strong desire to get well established in the Truth. “Deep rooted” is the phrase that keeps coming to my mind the past few weeks. Jesus wants people who love Him and his Father so much, that nothing else really matters when a choice has to be made concerning all the little decisions we make every day of our life. At the end of the day all of our decisions should be based on Jesus. Making Jesus and his Father happy, that is our number one job on this planet. There is coming a day when we are going to have to know “what we believe” and “why we believe, what we believe”. The roots of the Truth are going to need to be deeeeeeep in our hearts. Now is the time to prepare and now is the time to seek more understanding and knowledge of what Jesus has for us. The storm is coming, prepare now! Things will not always be as they are now.

That is one of the many wonderful things of the truth; you can never get enough and you should never stop wanting more and more. Whew, your e-mail really stirred me up. I am glad you are on the team. Two more phrases that are running through my mind after reading your wonderful e-mail:

-Do not be picky eaters! Eat what is put on the table.

-Do not think you have enough of Jesus for now, so tonight/today you’ll just hold back and let someone else have some! HA 🙂



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Dear Pastor John,

I have been reading your email replies to several persons who either through the website found you and dropped a line or two with questions. At first thought, I saw your replies as being rude and show of pride in you. This I believe should not be a thing to be seen in the life of a man of God like you. When I saw that, I kept quiet and kept reading subsequent ones without making comments on them.

Today I am happy to inform you that Jesus has shown me the reasons why you do what you do. I now know that it is not as a sign of being rude, arrogant or showing of pride. It is a display or replay of what Jesus did to those who asked questions in the bible that they themselves do not really need the answers to. And even when they get an answer is not willing to follow it. I see your replies as that that comes from a heart that does not want to displease its owner (God) and please the world. It shows that you know that the whole world is not meant for you to pastor and you do not want to waste your time (and that of those that you pastor) with those that are not to be pastored by you. I also see your replies as a test key to know those who have heard from God and Jesus (the Sheep of God) and those who have not (the goats). Further, it displays that you are not after quantity (numbers or figures) but quality.

I am beginning to understand the more why you are not a Christian pastor. Christian pastors do not display such qualities in God (at least not many that I met during my 10 years plus with them). John what you have in the application of God’s wisdom, is what I for one desire to have and apply. Someone like me should not be foolish up to the extent that he should not realize that there is time for everything (time to correspond and time not to correspond). God help us all. Amen!


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