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Satan and Job

John,

I love the section on Satan and Job, in the new book about the Father and the Son! When people find out that Satan is not who they have always thought he was, they are going to be very surprised. And they will find out who God really is, too! You are right, Satan was evil, but he was still carrying out God’s orders! That is very clear. I can’t wait for God’s people to read this book and finally see that Christianity has done a number on them – and on us, too, until God showed us the truth. ūüôā This is good!

Lou

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web question on salvation

Hi Beth. You wrote:

Question/Comments = Rev 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.——–what does this mean? is this saying that we have to overcome all sin or the carnality of humanity in order to “stay” in the book of life and go to heaven? we were discussing this and many different scriptures and opinions were presented . I think that yes we must be Holy , and i think its heart that is looked at by God. I do think as the scripture indicates that we can lose our right to be in the book of the living. that salvation can be lost. most of the group are “once saved always saved’ . i just cannot take on that idea. so please explain this to me. they are saying that we don’t go on merit but grace and as I know that receiving the new birth falls in this category , I do believe that we have a duty to holiness and our love should drive us to holiness. please enlighten us to this . Thank you so much

Beth
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Dear Beth.

Thank you for writing. This is an important issue and you should ask about it until you are rooted in the truth and are certain of what is right.

There have always been false teachers who confuse God’s people concerning God’s requirement of holiness. In Jeremiah 3:7-10, the false teachers taught that Jerusalem would never be destroyed because God’s temple was there. But God was telling them they would be safe only if they “amend your ways”. And in Malachi 2:17, the false teachers were ridiculing the notion that there is any judgment for disobedient children of God to fear.

In this covenant, false teachers are still at work, using the word “grace” and the name “Jesus” to persuaded people that how they live will not determine where they spend eternity. This is a deadly doctrine, as the two gospel tracts below will explain. Please let me know what you think of them and how it goes with your group.

http://www.goingtojesus.com/site/php/works.html

http://www.goingtojesus.com/site/php/whatissalvation.html

Pastor John

PS It sounds as if your group might be a mixture of people with the baptism of the Spirit and people without it. There is no hope whatsoever of unity in the light of Christ if that is the case. You all must be filled with the Spirit if you hope to walk together in the light. It would be better to gather with 2 or 3 humble souls who have God’s Spirit within them than with 2 or 3 hundred without it, or half of them filled.

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Thank you for your response to me. I wrote because of the ones in our Sunday school class that is of the false Christian up-bringing. I was invited to go to this class as i was walking one day and the girl said she thought the Sunday school teacher had the Holy Ghost like I was witnessing to her. Later on after i began to go , the girl also did receive the Holy Ghost. the other four do not have and they all have that Baptist teaching that saved is filled with “the spirit” and that “baptism of the spirit” is different and is an extra special gift that one doesn’t have to have but is nice ….Its enough to make one sick, yet I persevere to try to help them to see. Should I just abandon them and go to someplace that is all “filled”. I’ve had the Holy Ghost 42 years and i do agree with your tracts. I printed and handed them out but they are so stubborn !! Please pray that God will open the eyes of their heart. I also wanted to show your response to the class.¬†

Beth

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Hello again, Beth.

Where did the little girl receive the holy Ghost?  There where she is going?  What is the name of that church?  And how did you come to understand the truth about the new birth?

Also, I don’t know of any place that “is all filled”. ¬†It is all a confused mess out there. ¬†That is why God is calling for His children to come out of Christianity. ¬†God has been very good to us here, giving us an oasis in the midst of a spiritual wasteland. ¬†Some of the younger people here have never participated in the confusion that is Christianity; all they have ever known is the truth, and they can only imagine how it is for most of God’s people, such as yourself, struggling constantly with the spirit of antichrist. ¬†If you ever find a place where a man is teaching the truth to a congregation who loves it, please let me know. ¬†That would be a place worth traveling to see.

As to your question, whether to keep being a part of that madness or leave it, the wisest answer I can give you is to echo what your heavenly Father is saying to all His people, “Come out of her!” ¬†I suspect that being around it has already affected your heart more than you realize. ¬†I wish it was not that way, but I do not want to pretend, as so many children of God are doing, that that to partake of the deluding wine of “the great whore” is the our only alternative. ¬†The reality is, death would be better.

I pray that you will fall so much in love with the truth Jesus has shown you that you will not let any unclean thing touch it.

Pastor John

PS  Please read this, concerning the antichrist.

http://www.goingtojesus.com/site/php/antichrist.html

 

 

 

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Charismatics who divorce

Pastor John,

What do think of divorce, and all these charismatic leaders who are going thru it, and they remarry?

Driss,
Algeria

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Hi Driss

Thank you for writing.

God hates divorce, and it should always be the last option when marital problems arise. As for any particular cases of divorce among charismatic leaders, I know nothing except what I hear through the media. In other words, I really know nothing at all. And, if you will allow me to say so, neither do you. Let’s concentrate on the tasks God has given to us, and pray for those who may be going through dark, hurtful times.

Pastor John

PS. You can read my book, Marriage and Divorce, on line at :

http://www.goingtojesus.com/site/php/books.php?tname=marriage:2

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Sober thoughts

 

Dear Bro. John:

I was going through some things getting ready for my move and I ran across some notes from your “Fundamentals of the New Testament” class in 2008. They felt so good to me that I thought I would share them. These thoughts help me to remember who I am (who we are) and I love them!

11/1/2008 Pastor John

“Every freedom movement on the planet is a lie. It is all a disguised quest for power. The “civil rights” movement was just a cover for carnal people to grasp for power. The “equal rights for women” movement was just a cover for carnal people to grasp for power. This whole world is motivated by talk and rumor. Equality in this world will never exist, least of all for God’s people. Know who your family is. It is the family of God. We are ambassadors from a foreign country, a heavenly one. All hope for anything in this world is vain. We are not liberals or conservatives; we are for Jesus – he is the only one who is truly impartial. Our only hope is Jesus. Our only desire is Jesus. This world is damned, and it is going to be destroyed.”

All these thoughts remind me of what Grandma Edna used to ask Bro. Coy when he would come visit her with what he considered a problem: “Is it eternal?!”

Sandy ūüôā

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The point of this “Pearl of Wisdom, below, is that God cannot be manipulated. ¬†One afternoon, about 20 years ago, I warned a sister in the Lord that if she did not stop trying to manipulate God into doing things her way, she was going to drive herself insane. ¬†That same night, long after bedtime, I received a phone call from her distraught daughter. ¬†In the background, I could hear the voice of that sister I had warned. ¬†She was walking about the house, screaming, for a long time. ¬†I couldn’t make out her words, but her daughter said she was screaming obscenities and other things as she walked around, but then she would stop doing that and speak in tongues. ¬†Her husband didn’t know what to do. ¬†This went on for a good while that night, and there was nothing I could do about it. She had driven herself mad trying to pressure God ito doing things her way.
 
This “Pearl” contains an important bit of wisdom. ¬†It means, in case any among us is unclear about it, that we are not God. ¬†And that means that we had better learn how to humble ourselves to His way, or we will certainly face some unsavory consequences.
 
Preacher Clark had learned this lesson well. ¬†That’s why, in a Pearl that you read not too long ago, he said something like, “If it doesn’t go the way I like it, then I like it the way it does go.” ¬†In other words, “If God does not do it the way I would like for Him to do it, then I like it the way God does do it.”
Pastor John
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Hi John,

The things you have written on “Principalities and powers” made me think, and I wonder if the spirit( ruling this country is the same one as say, back in the 40’s or 50’s, or is the US under a more evil one, especially with what we’re seeing with the government today.

Billy M
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Yes, think a new demon is in town, controlling this country. Exactly how that works, I don’t know. But inasmuch as Satan has power over the angels that rule the nations, he can re-assign them at will. He even said so to Jesus during the Temptation.

jdc

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Hey Pastor John,

Also, I have a question concerning “Principalities and Powers”. At the end of the first lesson, you state that Satan was ruler over the wicked powers in the world, and that’s the position that he offered Jesus. So, obviously Satan wouldn’t have known that they were “evil”, right? If he did, he or other angels would have seen something about it, I would suspect. So would he have been blinded to the fact that they were evil and just taken over by the fact that he was “ruler”?

Leah
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Since the Son was not yet revealed, nobody could have known what God was really seeing as “evil”, so Satan would not have seen those angels as evil. No.

Pastor John

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Who was Lucifer?

Bro. John:

This is so very good. I love how you dissected Satan and showed how wrong he was about Jesus. Who knows these things?! God is feeding us manna from heaven with the wisdom we are getting in the writing of the Father and Son. I want to cherish every word and love it as He does. It shows us even more how much God loves His Son.

It brought tears to my eyes to read the last line: “The suffering came first, and the glory, Jesus received after his resurrection. Satan was wrong about everything.”

And the whole world is wrong without the Spirit guiding. I remember when the Spirit spoke this to me: “When you think, you weaken the Spirit.” While reading “Who is Lucifer” this morning, it dawned on me why this is so true. The Spirit is the Life of God. It requires no thinking – God just IS! And His Son IS who he is. Satan must have done a lot of thinking to think he was going to change who God is or who His Son is. “. . . . O, Lucifer . . . . How you are cut down to the earth, O weakener of the nations!”

The contrast that you bring out about the “Light-bringer” and the light (holy Spirit) which the Son brought, and also what Satan thought and what his ministers portray was so good. Who knows these things?!

Well, needless to say, I was blessed reading this. We are so loved and cared for by our Savior. Sometimes I don’t even know how to respond to such sweet riches. I suppose the best way is to love it and live it, and stay thankful to be a child of God in the truth.

Sandy ūüôā

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Hey Pastor John.

A couple things about “Principalities and Powers”:
I thought the way Daniel 10 was translated was really good. I could envision that scene in my mind.

I wasn’t entirely sure what direction this section was heading in the beginning, but when I read the paragraph at the end that starts with “from the beginning, submission to the authorities…,” I could see how it came full circle back to Jesus.

In this sentence:
Every nation on earth has a wicked spiritual ruler, including the United States, and under each of those invisible rulers are other evil powers which are over provinces and states, and over counties, parishes, and perhaps even over towns” what is the purpose of those rulers? What do they accomplish under Satan’s direction? Do they try people on earth, such as the way Satan did with Job?

I’m looking forward to hearing what you have learned.

Thank you.
Anna

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Very good questions, Anna!

The purpose Satan, “the god of this world” and the purpose of the angels under him who rule over the nations is to maintain order in a world of stubborn, ungodly humans. John said that “the whole world lies in wickedness”, but human wickedness is different from Satan’s. Satan’s is a much higher class wickedness than man’s usually is, and he despises the low-life forms of wickedness he and his angels see among men every day.

Men are rebellious, petty, self-indulgent, and “carried about with every wind of doctrine”. Satan is none of those things. He and his angels have a difficult time governing men, keeping them from blowing themselves up or just ruining every good thing they have, such as clean air, clean water, and healthy soil. Satan “savors the things that be of man”, Jesus said, and the scriptures say that “God has given the earth to the children of men.” Would that not mean that Satan is an environmentalist? I could go on, but you see my point.

The picture of Satan that Christianity has painted for the world is so far from the truth that it would be comical, except for the precious souls who believe that silly picture. My book, God Had a Son before Mary Did, can liberate God’s people from faith in Christianity and all the false pictures it has drawn ‚Äď if we can just get them to read it!

Jesus said that Satan kingdom was well-organized. But he has yet to find the man who will listen to him, submit to his spirit, and put things in order on earth (the way Satan wants the order to be). Satan will find that man one day, and he will give that man his seat and his power. Then that man, whom God calls “the Beast”, will establish “law and order”, and he will govern the world as absolute ruler until Jesus returns and starts his thousand-year reign.

I hope that short summary helps clear things up for you.

Pastor John

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Hi John,
 
Your email with Anna made me wonder a few things…
 
1) Are there divisions in the ‚Äúprincipalities and powers‚ÄĚ world?¬† For example, certain countries are often contentious with other countries (e.g. North and South Korea, Iran and Israel, etc.).¬† Are some of these contentions inspired by invisible rulers who are also ‚Äúat odds‚ÄĚ with each other?
 
2) Are spirits of lust, rage, etc. who can inspire (presumably) men to do things that Satan hates (e.g. adultery, school shootings, etc.) at odds with Satan?  Does Satan despise some of these spirits the way he despises the men who act under their influence?  Or, are all spirits in the invisible world working together under Satan the way he likes it, in very good order?
 
Thanks,
Taylor
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Hi Taylor.

As for your first question, I have pondered over that a number of times.¬† Was Hitler’s hated of Stalin in the late 1930’s an indication that the “prince of Germany” hated the “prince of Russia”?¬† An even more intriguing question is, can one of the princes in Satan’s kingdom overthrow another and take his place, thus bringing about an overthrow of one earthly government and the establishment of a different one, such as in the American revolution?¬† Or in the case of the American War between the States, did two “princes” share rule, and then turn on each other?

There are different ways to be united and different ways to be divided.¬† Satan’s kingdom is perfectly united in darkness and ignorance of God, but it can still be divided when it comes to having peace among themselves.¬† “There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked.”

 

As for your second question, you are touching on one of Satan’s (and God’s, for that matter) biggest challenges; namely, how does one get humans to recognize authority and submit to it?¬† Humans are rebellious and self-serving by nature.¬† Satan cannot control them very well, yet.¬† He is looking for a man he can use to subdue the entire human race so that he can use the nations to do certain things he wants to do, such as to destroy Israel.¬† The man he eventually will use is called “the Beast” in the Bible.¬† There is no telling what men will call him, but it will be something like what the current President was recently called by one entertainment figure: “our lord and savior”.

So, yes, anarchists, vandals, harlots, drunkards, and the like are not Satan’s servants.¬† They are serving their own lusts, and he despises them.¬† His law and order man is coming, and that “Beast” will destroy them and unite the earth under one government.¬† Their are lower sorts of demons that are despised by other, more sophisticated demons, of course.¬† But how Satan keeps it all under control, the Bible does not say.

Pastor John

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Morning Pastor John,

I too have read the Crucifixion part of the Father and Son book, several times. It always touches me deeply when I think about what Jesus went through. I also think about the doctrine of the Trinity, how it takes away the love of God and the love of the Son!

As a parent, one would much rather go through pain and suffering yourself than to watch your child go through it, especially your only child who was your daily delight! And Jesus was a Son who loved and honored his Father so much he wanted his Father’s will done! And for both of them to love us so much to make a way to redeem us!

It is all about relationships! The Father and Son had a relationship and they also wanted a relationship with us! You wrote in one place, “The Father was willing to give Jesus up for us, and Jesus was willing to be given for us.”

Oh my!!! I woke up this morning hearing Gary’s song, “Ask of Me”, in my heart!!

Thank you John, this is a wonderful book!

Sue

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Pastor John,

Do you think that Satan recognizes the spirit that Jesus gives as the spirit of God? I wonder how he could justify killing those under the spirit of God if he did. Is it even possible for him to discern that kind of life with his kind of life?

Could he still think that Jesus is a son of God?

Name Withheld
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Satan would have no reason to think that Jesus ever was not A son of God. Even the angel at jesus’ birth called him “son of the most high”. As for Jesus being THE Son of God, I am less sure that Satan is convinced of that yet. But if he is not convinced now, I expect that he will be thoroughly convinced when he is being cast into the Lake of Fire.

He is angry enough to kill anyone who loves Jesus and has received the Spirit. The last verse in Revelation 12 tells us that. Without having God’s kind of life, though, which is the Spirit that believers receive, Satan cannot possibly understand it. He may not believe that the Spirit Jesus baptizes with is the real Spirit of God. It certainly is not the kind of spirit that Satan thought God was!

Pastor John

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