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John,

I read the “Pearl” below, and had this question: How would a person sum up, in a few words, the definition of being “too religious”?

Wendell

Pearl 022813

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Hi Wendell.

Any person who is religious at all, without the holy Ghost leading him, is too religious. It is important that we consider this, for Solomon said that we could destroy ourselves by being over religious (Eccl. 7:16). So, we should make every effort to be certain that we are led by the Spirit in every religious activity, choice, and thought. Our soul depends upon it. Paul said that God considers only those “who are led by the Spirit” to be His children (Rom. 8:14). To worship or to try to serve God without being led by the Spirit can lead one to be an enemy of God, like young Paul and many others like him who did great harm to God’s children while “thinking to do God a service” (Jn. 16:2).

The Spirit alone enables us to know God so that we can serve Him in a way that is acceptable to Him. All other religious activity on earth, and it is a massive amount, “is as filthy rags” in His sight (Isa. 64:6).

Pastor John

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So well said, John. 

I made so many errors, as a man seeking God, before I had been baptized with holy spirit.  I was too religious to my daughter, and to many others, and that dampened my relationships with them.  I pressed too hard–in the flesh–to be holy, when I wasn’t holy, yet.   I took religious things too seriously—in the flesh—and my attitude hardened  the hearts of those I wish I could have brought along for the ride.   BUT—then after I did receive the spirit, the persecution got even worse, but for a different reason.  Those who had tolerated my religiosity now were exposed by the light—by the truth that I proclaimed—and it proved to be too much for them to bear, and they rejected me altogether. . . all the while blaming me for changing; for being changed.
 
Brad
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Mary

Pastor John,

As I’m typing one of the IK books, namely Mary through the Centuries, I am amazed at how highly exalted she is. I am so thankful that God has not let me be impressed with Christianity. After reading chapter 2 of the Father and Son book this weekend, and reading in Matthew this morning, I see how common sense, down to earth, and non-religious Jesus is. He is more approachable than they’ve made Mary to be.

Anna D
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Hi Anna,

There are those who think that the next great theological step for Catholicism will be to declare Mary somehow to be the third person of the Trinity, so that there will be a holy family in heaven. If so, it will be a kind of an effeminization of God, like the effeminization of men that is taking place in this culture now.

Pastor John
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Gross.
Anna
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Amen to that.
Pastor John

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I Like This!

To Pastor John,

Typing the gospel tract, “Scripture Burners”, I love your father’s writing. And, I love how we run across things he wrote a long time ago that so much apply to now. This (below) is so true! Also, it encourages us to “keep on keeping on”. Here is a little excerpt I typed this morning:

God has had and always will have a few Jeremiahs, men of activity, who will graciously receive His Word and write it on rolls. Yes, reader, the pen is as much needed today as it ever was, for God has never ceased speaking to His people. With all due respect to the Bible, I am convinced that God has messages for us now that are not yet in print, indeed, sermons for His holy ones.” – George Clark, Sr., “Scripture Burners”.

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Centurion / Jesus

Hi, Pastor John:

You were teaching us lately, from the Father and Son book, that no one knew Jesus until God revealed him at Pentecost. I had a thought, “but what about the Centurion?” The KJV reads in Matthew 27:54,

Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, ‘Truly this was the Son of God.'”

I looked up your translations and read these scriptures.

Matthew 27:54:

Now, when the centurion and those guarding Jesus with him saw the earthquake and the otherthings that happened, they were stricken with great fear and said, ‘This really was a son of God!'”

Mark 15:39 reads:

Now, when the centurion, who had been standing in front of him, saw him cry out like this and give up the spirit, he said, ‘Truly, this man was the son of a god.’”

In Luke, the centurion was calling Jesus righteous; nothing about calling Jesus a god. And in John, there is no mention of a centurion saying anything (that I read).

In our Greek class we are learning our articles, “a” and “the”. If the translations used the definite article “the”, then it would sound and give the impression that the Centurion knew Jesus as the son of God, instead of a son of one of the god’s. Just knowing one small word such as the correct article to use can change the whole scene. It brought more value and validity to our reading. No one knew “The” Son, until “The” God revealed him and “The” Life of God entered into men [on the day of Pentecost]. “No one can say Jesus is Lord, except by the holy Ghost” and “from the abundance of the heart the mouth doth also speak.” We can truly say “Jesus is Lord” and truly know that from our hearts only if our hearts have been changed by the love of God; “For the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the holy Ghost”. I love articles; “they are your friend” as Mounce says. It seems as though you can’t use the definite article [and confess “the” Son], unless your heart knows God.) It was good looking up these scriptures.

The readings have been so good; hope to see everyone, soon.

Billy
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That’s right, Billy.

When we get to Chapter 6 of the Father and Son book, you will see the following section (not proofed or edited yet), if you have not already read it:

A Son of God, Not the Son of God

When Jesus came up on the bank of the Jordan after being baptized, John the Baptist must have been deeply impressed when he heard the Voice from heaven say, “This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased” (Mt. 3:16-17; Mk. 1:9-11; Lk. 3:21-22). At the same time, however, John (and whoever else heard that Voice) could only have thought that God was speaking of Mary’s son, for the pre-existent Son of whom God was really speaking was still unknown. The Son of God was not revealed just because he came to earth; “he came unto his own, and his own received him not” (Jn. 1:11). The Son was revealed only after he returned to heaven and the Spirit was sent back to give us the kind of life we needed in order to know him. As for Satan, hearing God express pleasure in Jesus as a son may have impressed him, too, but it would not have intimidated him. Satan himself was a “son of God”, and he believed that God was even better pleased with him, too.

By the time of Jesus, the title, “son of God”, or “sons of God”, had long been in use as a name for heavenly beings (Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7).

Heavenly creatures and many on earth in Jesus’ time understood “son of God” to be a mere figure of speech, a way to express God’s “fatherhood” over His creatures. God Himself used the phrase figuratively (Mal. 1:6). None of heaven’s creatures, however, and no one in Israel with any wisdom and scriptural knowledge, believed that God really had a Son. Such a thing, they would have thought, was beneath God’s dignity.

Of course, many ancient Gentiles believed the myths concerning gods and goddesses literally begetting earthly sons and daughters.

The Gentile king, Nebuchadnezzar (Dan. 3:25), did not say that the fourth man in the fiery furnace looked “like the Son of God”, as translators usually have it. Instead, he said what others in his time would have said, had they seen that mysterious fourth man walking about in the blazing furnace; to wit, that the fourth man looked “like a son of a god.”

For another example, the Roman soldiers who crucified Jesus, when awestruck at the unnatural darkness and the earthquake which attended Jesus’ death, responded exactly as Nebuchadnezzar did, and exactly as we would expect of those who lived before the knowledge of the Son of God was revealed at Pentecost,

Matthew 27:

54. When the centurion and those who were with him guarding Jesus saw the earthquake and those other things happen, they were very afraid, saying, ‘This man really was a son of God!’”

Most Church translators have those Romans saying, “This man really was the Son of God”, but that is not what the Romans said. Nor is it what the Greek text of the Bible says. Churchmen know about the Son of God, and their mistranslation of what the Roman soldiers said leaves the impression that the ancient Romans knew about the Son of God, too. They most certainly did not. No one did. Paul pointed out the obvious fact that if they had known God’s Son, they would not have crucified him (1Cor. 2:7-8).

In the verses below, virtually every translation of the New Testament produced by churchmen quotes Satan as calling Jesus, “the Son of God”, as if Satan knew of God’s pre-existent Son. Technically speaking, that translation is possible, but again, “the” is missing in the Greek text, and given the universal ignorance of the Son’s existence at that time, that fact of biblical Greek should be taken more seriously by translators. Satan had no knowledge of the Son of God; therefore, it is beyond all question that “a son of God” instead of “the Son of God” is what Satan actually said.

Matthew 4:3: 

When the Tempter came to him, he said, Since you are a [not the] son of God, command that these stones be turned into bread.’”

. . .5. “Then the Accuser carried him to the holy city and set him on the pinnacle of the temple;
6. and he said to him, ‘Since you are a son of God, throw yourself down. . . .’”

Luke is the only other Gospel to record Satan’s words, and he agrees with Matthew:

Luke 4:

3. And the Accuser said to him, ‘Since you are a son of God, tell this stone to become a loaf of bread.’”
. . .

9. “Then he brought him to Jerusalem and set him on the pinnacle of the temple, and he said to him, ‘Since you are a son of God, throw yourself down. . . .’”

Before the day of Pentecost, even men and women of great faith and power were not considered “sons of God”; yet, even if some of them had been called “sons of God”, Satan would have esteemed the very best of them to be unworthy of comparison with him. He had no rivals in heaven or earth, as he saw it, including Jesus, even though he knew that great things had been spoken of Jesus by the prophets and that God had caused Mary to conceive him. Miracles are the norm in heaven; Satan had seen many of them over the millennia. His knowledge of Mary’s miraculous conception does not mean he knew that God was preparing a temple for His hidden Son to possess. But their knowing that God would literally be the Father of Mary’s child helps us understand why Gabriel announced to Mary that her baby would be called “a son of God” (not “the Son of God” as Church translators usually have it).

Luke 1:

31. [Gabriel said to Mary] Behold, you will conceive and give birth to a son, and you will call his name Jesus.

32. He will be great, and he will be called a son of the Highest. The Lord will give him the throne of David his father.”

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 34. “Then Mary said to the angel, ‘How will this be, since I do not know a man?’”

35. “And the angel answered and said to her, ‘God’s holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you. Therefore, that holy thing which is born will be called a son of God.’”

Gabriel did not explain to Mary, because he did not know, that one day her baby boy would grow up to become the temple of the pre-existent, hidden Son of God. Gabriel’s calling Mary’s son “a son of the Highest” and “a son of God” did nothing to reveal to her or anyone else that in the beginning, God had created a Son in His image and that through His Son, everything else had been created.

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John,

  The concept that no one knew the Son before Pentecost seems to be hard for us to keep near and dear to our heart. The scriptures really have to be expounded on to take this in or it doesn’t seem plausible. 
  After reading this I was contemplating if Satan knows even now or understands who the Son is.  

Wendell

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Hi Wendell, 

Satan does not know the Father and the Son.  He can’t.  Most probably, Satan feels misunderstood and mistreated.  I have wondered many times if he thinks God rejected him and exalted Jesus instead because Jesus slandered him to God and others.  Jesus certainly said some bad things about Satan while here among us.  The thing is, though, that everything Jesus said was true, even if Satan does not think so.

 jdc 

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John,
 That really makes you fearful and be compassionate, God is not mocked.  Would be I could always remember your words: “What God does to a person is enough.”
  It brings back words the Lord spoke to me when being ridiculed and made fun of for no reason by a group of people at work one day, and I asked the Lord why. He told me, “They have rejected my council.”  It instantly made me prayerful for those that had abused me, and my thoughts were corrected.

 Wendell

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Hi Pastor John.

 I was listening to JustinTV in Dayton, OH last night. Thank God for JustinTV. Carrie’s testimony was so heartfelt and real to me. We are truly loved at this Holy place that God brought us to. The reading of chapter 2 was wonderful and so full of the love of God, afterwards(JustinTV) I sat in my chair in the hotel room with my eyes full of tears for the truth and mercy that God is giving us.

 I have been watching the John Adams, CDs and was getting ready to finish the series after the meeting when Stuart emailed me about how good the meeting was. I am still feeling it’s it’s effects this morning. The hardships that these people went through, especially the women when the husbands were away left you feeling very sober; the lack of medical advancements, the weeks it took to cross the Atlantic, the week or months it took to communicate one letter. Men died waiting on news. The tooth brushes that were made of horse hair (if you were rich) or other types of animal hairs; the firewood that HAD to be cut for winter, along with the candles that were made or bought. I could go on, but all of those things made me appreciate what we have today. It reminded me of smelling the soap in the shower at the hospital after three days of not being able to take a shower. We are truly blessed with niceties and ease of living. Even the poorest soul in this country lives better than most of the people just 100 years ago. I had to just sit for a while in silence and thank Jesus for what He has blessed me with; health, people that love me, a job, and the truth of God in our midst.

 This country, I believe, was created by God to spread the Revelation and truths of Jesus to the world; it is a gift from God. After finishing the CD series I was ashamed of how the generations, especially in the 20th century have declined and the lack of just good common sense. My heart hurt. The Constitution will fall not because of only a lack of morality, but because after all that God has done to bless this nation, men will not repent. If I could, I would repent for those generations that have waisted their opportunities, but I can’t. It left me feeling, “God, I don’t want to waist another second of my life.”

 I just want to thank Jesus for rescuing us, and for his Father’s mercy on our little group, and the Truth He has blessed us with; it is life saving.

 billy

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http://videos2view.net/LH-stones.htm

From: Bob

Hey. I think I heard the lyrics as “baby you’re out off time”. Well I took that as Laurel and Hardy and their simplistic humor do not belong to the world we now live in. It is not what entertains this generation. I had a dream last night that I was getting together with some old geology students. Not having seen them for years I would ask them questions about their lives. What I felt is that I was asking with a concern and value for relationships which I did not possess before. (Something God has done for me.) Then I looked out the big glass picture window and saw a cloud with an orange glow on the horizon. As the glow turned to gray I realized it was from an explosion, probably atomic. I turned around and announced that a shock wave was on the way. Ellen was now in the dream. I told her to get down on the floor. We held hands lying face to face and I told her that things will never be the same. The world we once shared will be gone and another will take its place. I guess that is what eventually happened to Laurel and Hardy.

Bob

Jeremiah 9:23-24
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That’s right, Bob. The changes in this world that are taking place before our eyes are so great that they can justly be compared to a nuclear explosion, and there is nothing we can do to stop it. Nor do we want to, for it is God’s agenda that is being put into operation, not man’s. Our focus must be only on abiding “under the shadow of the Almighty” and listening for His voice. He will guide us through whatever changes are coming.

jdc

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Chapter 1

Name = Derek S
Location = Dalton, GA

Question/Comments = First of all I will introduce myself. I am a friend of Brad C. (in California), I live in North Georgia. Brad has lifted me up in the spirit many times throughout the last few years. I met Brad on an online discussion about Jesus is not God 😉 He was the only one that ever acknowledge my words as truth. So I gave him my number almost 3 years ago and the rest is history. He invited me to watch the online meetings. So I have a question about chapter 1?

What about Jesus as a child?

[Luk 2:49 KJV]

 49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father’s business?

Do you not think this should be in the gospel of Luke? I ask because this verse doesn’t line up with the Spirit of Jesus coming exactly at the baptism by John. Even Jesus’s own words to John are astoundingly different than this idea right before John baptizes Him. Before the Spirit descends upon Him [Jesus].
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Hi, Derek. Thank you for writing.
You will remember that James said, “The body without the spirit is dead.” This tells us that Jesus had a spirit before the holy Spirit came upon him after he was baptized; otherwise, he would have been dead. It wasn’t the spirit of Jesus that came upon him; he already had his human spirit. It was God’s Son from heaven, in spirit, that came upon him.
I deal with the issue of Jesus’ sense of closeness, as a child, with God in the book. Keep watching Justin TV, and we will get to that.
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[Mat 3:15 KJV]

15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer [it to be so] now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.

So I find this “suddenly” part to be unnecessary to point out. Give the “Christians” one reason to call you false and they will. We must be diligent about writing the truth from the Holy Spirit.

I will point out that Jesus’s physical body is always traced through Joseph to David and thus ultimately to Abraham. This is important to mention.

[Rom 1:3 KJV]

3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

[2Ti 2:8 KJV]

8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

God is a spirit, He begets spirits

[Jhn 3:6 KJV]

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

[Jhn 4:24 KJV]

24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.

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I think you have made an important point here, one that I will now stress a little more in the book than I have done heretofore.
Your comments help me see the value of those NT genealogies of Jesus.
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In the flesh Jesus was Joseph’s son.
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Legally, perhaps, but not physically. Mary was a virgin when Jesus was born.
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In the spirit He is God’s own beloved Son. When Jesus’s physical body was baptized, His ministry begin. He first was in the wilderness and then He began to minister to the lost sheep of Israel for 3 and half years. This is the first half of the last week spoken of in Daniel 9.
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It certainly does appear that way.
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When they killed Jesus that was the abomination of desolation.
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That’s a mistake, but we can talk about it another time.
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So for the timing to line up, he was in ministry for 3 and half years but I don’t understand why it matters to point out the exact moment Jesus’s own spirit left Heaven, as if it wasn’t God’s son the whole time?
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Jesus’ spirit never left heaven because it was never there. His spirit was human and was in him from birth, here on earth.
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Jesus was the second Adam because he was a second tester. He was the Son of God. He was place into Adam’s genealogy through Mary (Joseph) and put to death by a tree by the Jews. Sin came into the world through a tree (the tree of knowledge and evil). And Jesus died on a tree (He submitted Himself to our curse).
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That’s an interesting insight. Thanks.
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Yet He was the very source of all life itself (God, His Father gave Him the authority to create everything, because God is wise). Therefore death could have no hold on Him. I believe Jesus knew exactly what it was like to be a human. He experienced it all. Birth and death. He was born of water, through Mary (Joseph-David-Abraham-Adam), and born of blood through the resurrection of death, and born of the spirit through God birthing Him before time.

[1Jo 5:6-7 KJV]

6 This is he that came by water and blood, [even] Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

I would love to meet all of these wonderful brothers and sisters on the video. My God bless you all!

Love,
Derek S.
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Thank you for writing, Derek. If Jesus lets us meet you someday, we will be thankful for it.

God bless,
Pastor John

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